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Author:chuber
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:39 pm (GMT+1)


Maybe I'm missing something basic here, but I'm not finding the answer in the help file or forum archives.

I am setting up a door schedule for our office and I'm having trouble adding the fields that I need. I am able to add "general" and "Window/Door" parameter types only. In my schedule I need to show door panel thickness, door finish, frame finish, glazing, header detail, jamb detail, etc. These are not available to me and appear to have different parameter types that I can find no way of adding, for example "text" (abc icon) for header and jamb detail call outs and "length" for door panel thickness. I've looked at using custom text fields, but I don't think that is what I need here.

The attached image shows examples of what I want to add, and is taken from the US Commercial template.

I know that I could import the schedule from the commercial template, but I'd like to know how to add the needed fields myself.

I'm using Archicad 19


Adding Schedule Fields

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Author:Dave Seabury
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:06 pm (GMT+1)


Chuber

in the image you attached, next to the add tab, click the down arrow
and select add object parameters. You will have to find the window(s)
that you are using and select the parameters there.

David
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Adding Schedule Fields

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Author:chuber
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:13 pm (GMT+1)


David, thank you! It all looked like one button to me.

Schedule Square Footages

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Author:Anton Kazmin
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:53 am (GMT+1)


jameshart wrote:
How can I create column column 2?



To get it straight, I assume we are talking about AC18 in your signature, as other ARCHICAD versions will differ in this area.

So, initially, you have a schedule that looks like the top one (see image attached).
Then, you check "Merge Uniform Items" and the schedule contracts to look like the one in the middle.
Finally you want a schedule to look like the bottom one, by adding the second column with a typical area of a unit?

Right?
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Schedule Square Footages

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Author:jameshart
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:07 pm (GMT+1)


Anton Kazmin wrote:
jameshart wrote:
How can I create column column 2?



To get it straight, I assume we are talking about AC18 in your signature, as other ARCHICAD versions will differ in this area.

So, initially, you have a schedule that looks like the top one (see image attached).
Then, you check "Merge Uniform Items" and the schedule contracts to look like the one in the middle.
Finally you want a schedule to look like the bottom one, by adding the second column with a typical area of a unit?

Right?


Yes, absolutely! How did you do that? Smile
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Schedule Square Footages

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Author:Anton Kazmin
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:14 am (GMT+1)


jameshart wrote:
Yes, absolutely! How did you do that? Smile


I don't really like short answers.
I believe understanding is very important for productive workflow, so, bear with me, as this is going to get a bit convoluted.

There are three types of parameters you can add to any of your schedules in AC18:
1. General project parameters you can find under Fields > Available Parameters area of schedule dialog box. You are already familiar with those, so we going to skip this section.
2. Object/Zone parameters. Any object (or zone stamp) in ARCHICAD can fetch you any parameter/variable available in that object/zone stamp. These are not project-related parameters, but rather object-related. This means before you can add those parameters to your schedule you will have to specifically select an object/zone stamp in your library you want to pull parameter into your schedule.
3. IFC property. I would take a wild guess that Industry Foundation Classes are not yet on your immediate priorities list, so I will skip this section too.

Now, if you think about the parameter you want to input into your Schedule (the area of a typical unit), you already know where it is. You entered it yourself into Zone stamp by opening Zone Tool from the Toolbox and editing Zone properties for each zone (unit). All zone-related parameters are stored by ARCHICAD in a Zone stamp, which is itself — just a GDL object.

So, to add a column "two" with a typical floor plan area you will need to pull parameter from a Zone Stamp object (see image attached for more info) in a few steps:
1. Create a schedule with two project-level parameters —á"Zone Name" and "Calculated Area" by selecting them under Available Parameters > Zone (you've already done that).
2. Look at the very bottom of the dialog window and locate a black triangle (I marked it with a red ellipse).
3. Press it to review more options to add data to your schedule.
4. Chose "Add Object Parameters" (after all the parameter we are looking for is a Zone Stamp-related, right?)..... see next post.
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Schedule Square Footages

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Author:Anton Kazmin
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:15 am (GMT+1)


5. Select object you need (one of the default Zone Stamps, usually the first one, as shown in my image, but can be any other Zone Stamp Object you use).
6. Find the parameter you need (in our case, called "ROOM_AREA", shown as unselectable grey entry, as it is already added to the area "7" by the time this screenshot was taken).
7. Add "ROOM_AREA" parameter to the schedule and click "OK"

Done. Make sure the column displaying "ROOM_AREA" parameter is in the right place by moving it up or down the schedule list.

If you have any more questions — let me know and I will take the time to answer them.
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Missing Autotext in *.XLSX, *.XLS table cells

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Author:Algimantas Kuprenas
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:03 pm (GMT+1)


I turned on HEADER in window list and written in autotext <PROJECTNUMBER> and <SHORTDATE>.

In PDF publish project number and date was printed correctly, but in excel it was printed <PROJECTNUMBER> and <SHORTDATE>. Is there way to show inside excel project number from ArchiCAD information table somehow (automaticaly) ?


Coordinate dimension error in schedules

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Author:PukisArch
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:49 am (GMT+1)


There are new bug in AC20.
Earlier, I used schedules to create simple lists for coordinate points.
Now, in AC20 schedules shows incorrect, not updated view of coordinate objects.
I had to open each one object, change some criteria, then return to schedule. After this senseless action, my list was up to date.
Every new object was listed incorrectly again.

Any ideas?
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Coordinate dimension error in schedules

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Author:Gorazd
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:20 am (GMT+1)


You are using Coordinate object from the library, right? This object has been broken in AC19 and AC20. In AC18 you could list the real values of XYZ in schedules, but in later versions, this parameters are not accessible any more. What I have done is, that I have opened AC18, placed coordinate object 18 in plan, selected it in open a library part (CTRL+SHIFT+O). Then just save it with another name somewhere on your HD. Open AC19 or 20, load this new object with library manager and use this new/old object.
Hope it helps.
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Coordinate dimension error in schedules

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Author:Erwin Edel
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:03 am (GMT+1)


I think it got removed/broken because we got 3D guidelines. Crying or Very sad
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Coordinate dimension error in schedules

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Author:laszlonagy
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:39 pm (GMT+1)


It is also possible that the significant changes made in GDL in AC19 are the reason why they do not work they way they used to.
In any case, I will report this to GRAPHISOFT.
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Coordinate dimension error in schedules

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Author:sinceV6
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:03 am (GMT+1)


laszlonagy wrote:
It is also possible that the significant changes made in GDL in AC19 are the reason why they do not work they way they used to.
In any case, I will report this to GRAPHISOFT.


The "Compatibility Changes in GDL" document states that:

5. Scheduling the location/coordinates of the Coordinate Dimension object was used to document setout points. Has a new method been added to deal with this?
--Scheduling of these parameters was not reliable earlier, because the parameter script did not run when generating the schedules, so the results were inconsistent with the current state if someone moved the project origin at least once.
--We have changed the Coordinate Dimension element so that it provides reliable coordinate information on floor plan and in 3D, but scheduling is not possible anymore.


So it is not broken, just not available anymore.

But the grand scope of things tells me that it is not the just object what should have changed, but the general way of 2D/3D information of objects in relation to the environment they are placed.

I cannot possibly begin to talk without knowing the inner workings of the program, only the people behind AC can; but the reason for the change is not aligned with the rest of documentation because the Reference states that the "Project Origin" is a constant location that remains fixed for the life of the project (and that the inner calculation origin might be moved as explained in this thread), so AFAIK, the project origin cannot be moved by someone else resulting in wrong information in schedules (even in teamwork?)

Then, if the Coordinate dimension can be scripted to provide reliable coordinate information in 2D/3D, why can't this information be accessed by AC (in the schedules) if we are talking about the object's position (nevermind that there might be a bug in the 2D script that shows a wrong coordinate), and AC ALWAYS knows its position so it can be placed in the 3D window regardless of where the project/edit/user origin is at any given moment.

So... I would think the problem is in the way the parameter script and schedules work or integrate with the rest of the program.

In other words: major GDL changes and improvements are needed -and long overdue- to accommodate the ever growing complexities of the industry. I believe they are coming. I just hope -as I've said before- that GS gives a second thought on maintaining long backwards compatibilities that could keep AC from its full potential. The fact of the changes in GDL in AC19 and AC20 is -I think- proof of this.

Best regards.

Schedule Square Footages

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Author:Anton Kazmin
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:34 pm (GMT+1)


jameshart wrote:
I checked each of the 5 zone objects I found by searching for objects that start with "zone" while looking for a property that gives the value in square feet, but I didn't find any. Are you aware of any other property that I missed?

You are correct. No related zone_stamp object has a variable in sq.ft. and ArchiCAD does not apply proper formatting to variables pulled form objects to account for different calculation systems (it should, but it doesn't).
The easiest option I can see here, since ArchiCAD is not very cooperative, is to add additional variables in sq.ft. to zone_stamp object in question. Need help there?
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Labels Schedule

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Author:Baby Boon
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:21 am (GMT+1)


ejrolon wrote:
Another reading finishes from the objects.
Floor pattern legend was using the Surface Legend Object but in 20 it can be done as a regular Schedule since we have previews.


Hi ejrolon, can you share how you use keynote to generate the note?
I'm currently re-working our company template (since 1Cool and try to utilised the surface lable tool to generate finishes legend.

Been looking for how to schedule label eventually end up in here.

Thanks
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Schedule Square Footages

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Author:jameshart
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:12 pm (GMT+1)


Anton Kazmin wrote:
jameshart wrote:
I checked each of the 5 zone objects I found by searching for objects that start with "zone" while looking for a property that gives the value in square feet, but I didn't find any. Are you aware of any other property that I missed?

You are correct. No related zone_stamp object has a variable in sq.ft. and ArchiCAD does not apply proper formatting to variables pulled form objects to account for different calculation systems (it should, but it doesn't).
The easiest option I can see here, since ArchiCAD is not very cooperative, is to add additional variables in sq.ft. to zone_stamp object in question. Need help there?


That was the only other thing I could think of, but I had been avoiding that workflow because it's easy for someone to forget to update the variable if the unit is changed. Oh well, maybe for ArchiCAD 21?

Thanks for all your help Anton! You rock! Smile
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Schedule Square Footages

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Author:Anton Kazmin
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:33 pm (GMT+1)


jameshart wrote:
I had been avoiding that workflow because it's easy for someone to forget to update the variable if the unit is changed.


Are you sure? I don't see any need for manual entry here.
Create a variable linked to already existing one and multiply it by 10.763910417 (m2 to sf.ft. coefficient), then just add that new variable to a schedule.

Am I missing something?
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Coordinate dimension error in schedules

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Author:PukisArch
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:12 am (GMT+1)


I previously used such schedule to list my coordinates for intersecting axes.
These points have custom origin.

Sad, but there are no such parameter to pick, just symbol in 2D view.
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Coordinate dimension error in schedules

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Author:PukisArch
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:13 am (GMT+1)


I used these parameters
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Window and Door Schedule

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Author:pdsdrawn
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:06 am (GMT+1)


HI All,

I have a window system that was used in Auto-cad and am having trouble producing a similar system. Archicad calls up all the different door TYPES. The doors are then all tagged ie. DG01-DG15 (door ground 1-15). The problem I have is once the door is tagged Archicad reads it as a different door.

Is there anyway to have a different Door tag number and keeping the door type is the schedule.

The attached will hopefully assist with understanding my request.

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